This morning, Idaho Freedom Caucus co-chair Senator Tammy Nichols presented Senate Bill 1211, which would allow Idahoans to purchase Ivermectin without a prescription.
Maybe the Idaho freedom caucus can update their articles before posting them. S 1211 already passed the House. And Representative Gannon is right! If we want true medical freedom in Idaho we need medical marijuana. The argument for ivermectin is the same argument for marijuana. Except establishment Republicans keep pushing people towards opioids because they're in the pockets of big pharma. Looking at you Crane brothers. It is time for TRUE medical freedom. Where I am allowed to put what I want in MY body without the threat of arrest.
Disagree that OTC ivermectin (IVM) and medical marijuana are the same issue. Oregon, for example, started with medical marijuana but quickly devolved into a drug-infested heck-hole of recreational marijuana and other street drugs.
If medical marijuana is ever allowed, it must be tested for purity and good manufacturing practices, sold as any other prescription drug that has addictive side effects, and dose controlled. Better alternatives for most (if not all) medical marijuana applications exist, but the drug industry and big government have suppressed them.
Current methods for dealing with prescription drugs (as medical marijuana should be) are not ideal, but likely are better than a medical marijuana free-for-all.
Space and time do not allow for a full research dump of health and societal dangers of marijuana (which always starts "medical" but quickly becomes "recreational" and often devolves to harmful opioids you cited). One example:
The Pharma-Medical-Biomedical Industrial complex is absolutely corrupt -- agree 100%. Making IVM OTC is a good first step toward reducing that stranglehold, as IVM can replace more expensive, more harmful, and less efficacious prescription drugs currently used for a variety of conditions.
IVM has almost no negative effects on health and society other than to improve health in sick people or prevent illness and reduce side effects from other Pharma drugs. For the vast majority of people, it's almost impossible to overdose on IVM -- unlike aspirin, acetaminophen, and opioids.
IVM has been used by billions to treat and cure serious diseases. It does not affect behavior or alter mental status. It doesn't stink because it isn't smoked. The case for IVM just is not the same as the case for marijuana.
You can argue effects all you want. But it doesn't address the actual argument at all. I watched representatives on the floor stand up and argue that we need OTC Ivermectin because people were getting it from grey markets and we're putting themselves at risk. The same argument applies to marijuana. But instead of of acknowledging this, you're just repeat the same talking points that we've been hearing since the 50's. The same talking points pushed by a corporatist who didn't want hemp paper ruining his business. You've fallen for the corporate and big pharma propaganda hook line and sinker. Think critically for a second, a natural plant or an addictive opioid? Maybe it's time for Big E to shut her big mouth. No point in using it if you can't use it effectively.
The floor arguments about the “gray market” were not ones we would have made nor did we make such an argument in our Substack. We are not responsible for anyone’s thoughts or statements except our own.
Recall that during COVID, no one was even allowed to talk about ivermectin, much less obtain it from doctors, pharmacists, and hospitals. Many people died unnecessarily and miserably. Now we have an oppportunity not only to talk about IVM, but to obtain it OTC where it can help the most people.
The “talking points” we offered are not based on corporatists, anti-hempists, etc. We lived through the hell of Oregon. Our opinions — right or wrong — are based on independent research, careful and “critical” thinking, and active resistance to propaganda (at least as much as any human mind can resist anything).
We have experienced the pain that corporatists — especially big Medicine — have caused. We understand that hemp is a different product from marijuana and do not object to hemp.
Please avoid ad hominem attacks, as they do not make you look better or others look worse. We’ll have to agree to disagree. Big E has shut Big E’s mouth now ;-)
Big mouth, small brain. You responded to me. I never said you made that argument, but Freedom Caucus members did. And if you recall, you have been able to get Ivermectin OTC from D&B for years before this legislation, and even during COVID. The talking points you brought up can be repeated for every drug in the world. They all have some negative consequences. And yet, you still defend big Pharmas decision to ban a plant and force a pill. Make it make sense. Medical freedom isn't a pick and choose issue. It is my body. It is my choice to put whatever I want in it, free from the threat of arrest. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you only support medical freedom for big pharma and not nature?
Keeping up with the bills is impossible for mere mortals. The legislature is moving at the speed of science!
Even if the bill already passed the House by the time the Substack authors hit the SEND key or the readers read it, the post still is valuable for education as well as encouraging the Senate to pass and the governor to sign.
I watched the debate on S 1211 this morning in the Senate. S 1211 is Tammy Nichols' bill that would make Ivermectin an over-the-counter (OTC) medication in Idaho. It passed 25-9-1 and headed off to the House.
The only "Republicans" who voted against it are:
David Lent
Van Burtenshaw
Kevin Cook
Jimmy Guthrie
(Time for these folks to be voted out!!)
Then, it passed the House.
I'm thinking the Senate still needs some serious work... Especially when it comes to who gets to be the gatekeeper of the Senate State Affairs Committee! Let's Primary Guthrie and find a new Committee Chairman.
Maybe the Idaho freedom caucus can update their articles before posting them. S 1211 already passed the House. And Representative Gannon is right! If we want true medical freedom in Idaho we need medical marijuana. The argument for ivermectin is the same argument for marijuana. Except establishment Republicans keep pushing people towards opioids because they're in the pockets of big pharma. Looking at you Crane brothers. It is time for TRUE medical freedom. Where I am allowed to put what I want in MY body without the threat of arrest.
Disagree that OTC ivermectin (IVM) and medical marijuana are the same issue. Oregon, for example, started with medical marijuana but quickly devolved into a drug-infested heck-hole of recreational marijuana and other street drugs.
If medical marijuana is ever allowed, it must be tested for purity and good manufacturing practices, sold as any other prescription drug that has addictive side effects, and dose controlled. Better alternatives for most (if not all) medical marijuana applications exist, but the drug industry and big government have suppressed them.
Current methods for dealing with prescription drugs (as medical marijuana should be) are not ideal, but likely are better than a medical marijuana free-for-all.
Space and time do not allow for a full research dump of health and societal dangers of marijuana (which always starts "medical" but quickly becomes "recreational" and often devolves to harmful opioids you cited). One example:
NIH -- Smoking cannabis associated with increased risk of heart attack, stroke: https://tinyurl.com/2z28etpv
Many more examples: Midwestern Doctor -- Search for marijuana: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/archive?sort=search&search=marijuana
The Pharma-Medical-Biomedical Industrial complex is absolutely corrupt -- agree 100%. Making IVM OTC is a good first step toward reducing that stranglehold, as IVM can replace more expensive, more harmful, and less efficacious prescription drugs currently used for a variety of conditions.
IVM has almost no negative effects on health and society other than to improve health in sick people or prevent illness and reduce side effects from other Pharma drugs. For the vast majority of people, it's almost impossible to overdose on IVM -- unlike aspirin, acetaminophen, and opioids.
IVM has been used by billions to treat and cure serious diseases. It does not affect behavior or alter mental status. It doesn't stink because it isn't smoked. The case for IVM just is not the same as the case for marijuana.
Some additional background info in support of S1211: https://tinyurl.com/yc866pks
You can argue effects all you want. But it doesn't address the actual argument at all. I watched representatives on the floor stand up and argue that we need OTC Ivermectin because people were getting it from grey markets and we're putting themselves at risk. The same argument applies to marijuana. But instead of of acknowledging this, you're just repeat the same talking points that we've been hearing since the 50's. The same talking points pushed by a corporatist who didn't want hemp paper ruining his business. You've fallen for the corporate and big pharma propaganda hook line and sinker. Think critically for a second, a natural plant or an addictive opioid? Maybe it's time for Big E to shut her big mouth. No point in using it if you can't use it effectively.
The floor arguments about the “gray market” were not ones we would have made nor did we make such an argument in our Substack. We are not responsible for anyone’s thoughts or statements except our own.
Recall that during COVID, no one was even allowed to talk about ivermectin, much less obtain it from doctors, pharmacists, and hospitals. Many people died unnecessarily and miserably. Now we have an oppportunity not only to talk about IVM, but to obtain it OTC where it can help the most people.
The “talking points” we offered are not based on corporatists, anti-hempists, etc. We lived through the hell of Oregon. Our opinions — right or wrong — are based on independent research, careful and “critical” thinking, and active resistance to propaganda (at least as much as any human mind can resist anything).
We have experienced the pain that corporatists — especially big Medicine — have caused. We understand that hemp is a different product from marijuana and do not object to hemp.
Please avoid ad hominem attacks, as they do not make you look better or others look worse. We’ll have to agree to disagree. Big E has shut Big E’s mouth now ;-)
Big mouth, small brain. You responded to me. I never said you made that argument, but Freedom Caucus members did. And if you recall, you have been able to get Ivermectin OTC from D&B for years before this legislation, and even during COVID. The talking points you brought up can be repeated for every drug in the world. They all have some negative consequences. And yet, you still defend big Pharmas decision to ban a plant and force a pill. Make it make sense. Medical freedom isn't a pick and choose issue. It is my body. It is my choice to put whatever I want in it, free from the threat of arrest. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Why do you only support medical freedom for big pharma and not nature?
Keeping up with the bills is impossible for mere mortals. The legislature is moving at the speed of science!
Even if the bill already passed the House by the time the Substack authors hit the SEND key or the readers read it, the post still is valuable for education as well as encouraging the Senate to pass and the governor to sign.
I watched the debate on S 1211 this morning in the Senate. S 1211 is Tammy Nichols' bill that would make Ivermectin an over-the-counter (OTC) medication in Idaho. It passed 25-9-1 and headed off to the House.
The only "Republicans" who voted against it are:
David Lent
Van Burtenshaw
Kevin Cook
Jimmy Guthrie
(Time for these folks to be voted out!!)
Then, it passed the House.
I'm thinking the Senate still needs some serious work... Especially when it comes to who gets to be the gatekeeper of the Senate State Affairs Committee! Let's Primary Guthrie and find a new Committee Chairman.
So did he not sign it?